Giles/Ethan friends

A post with three links in it, two of them Ethan-ish.

Is Ethan Rayne evil? Discuss! My answer: classic chaotic neutral. As Giles says, sadistic and self-centered. The mess amuses him, and he's not concerned with more than his own amusement. Usually. (It's fun to put him in circumstances where something does turn out to matter to him. From this conflict does story arise.)

From an interesting meta-writer, what is, for me, a view from the other side of the Twilight Zone: a reminder that my corner of BtVS fandom is tiny indeed. There are people who are baffled by Giles/Ethan! Also people baffled by Spike/Xander, and seriously I'd thought that 99.9% of the BtVS slash written was that. But one half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other, and I am in turn baffled by the appeal of Spuffy. Let us be mellow about shipping, therefore, and fill each other's mugs with something hot and sustaining.

I still want somebody to write Giles/Spike for me. Because at my current pace, I'm not gonna write it for a year. And besides, this is the year of Giles/Buffy epics.

Speaking of which, I have been finding some amazing photo references for the Iceland story. I'm still going to botch the research spectacularly somehow, because I always do, but at least it'll look right in my head. 4000 words and ticking. Estimated final: at least 20K, for a solid novella.
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I agree with chaotically neutral. But I do love his impish nature. It's a very fun kind of bad. Hmmm....I should write him more often, I really liked including him in last year's Old Enemy.
In a town where most of the baddies are trying to cause apocalypse, or are eating classfuls of high school students, Ethan's brand of evil doesn't seem so evil.
If he is then so is Giles, since I at least got the impression that he was much worse in his time. but then you walk into the moral redemption question etc. etc.

I second the Giles/Spike request, because I ship that harder than anything in that fandom.
Heh. I was just asking my daughter what she thought about Ethan and she said, "I love how you guys are such dorks and are actually talking about this." Put me in my place.
The word is 'geek', we are 'Buffy geeks' - we're the fans that say 'In "Graduation part 1" yada yada' & the actors think "OMG it was the writers!"
I know. Dorks sounds so harsh, doesn't it? Of course, my parents can't hear the word geek without thinking of someone who bites off chicken heads, but then, they're old.
"Behind Closed Doors"? Yeah, that's an interesting one, and the story that got me started with kinky Giles.
Hmm,I've vote for chaotic evil rather than neutral. Neutral to me means the character demonstrates that s/he can go back and forth either way....whereas Ethan's range seems more neutral-tending-towards-bad than true neutral. Maybe earlier in life he started out as true neutral but has tipped more towards the bad side over time...