wrath

The new Delicious. Oh dear.

Woo. The new Delicious is live and I'm thinking it's a functional failure. Going by @delicious mentions on twitter this morning, I'm not alone in thinking this.

RSS feeds are gone. I'm not sure what's wrong with the API, but portions of it appear to be broken.

It certainly breaks the bundle feature I was using to organize tags for the kink meme account. It has replaced bundles with tags named 'has:bundlename", which completely misunderstands the semantics of bundles. Every link now has "has:kink" has a tag, because every link had a "kink:foo" tag, and every "kink:foo" tag was in the "kink" bundle. Bundles were a way to group tags, that is, they were a trait of tags, not of links. That meaning has been entirely lost.

Now. Try browsing around on the kink meme account. Click on the "!prompt" and "!fill" tags. Notice that they don't work. Delicious fails to find any saved links with those tags, even though the tags are present in lists and you can see many, many links tagged that way. Why is this? It's because they're no longer escaping special characters in urls. See section 2.2 of RFC 3986 for the list. They are not escaping the bang. Also not escaping the colon, it seems, though that works. Inconsistent handling, I'm going to guess.

Holy crap they broke all tags with / in them even worse. Children, children, this is why we read RFCs and do things like use standard URI handling libraries, because the problems are boring and already solved.

This is merely a bug, albeit a staggering one. They'll fix it eventually. However, this particular bug reveals a certain base-level incompetence that disturbs me. Shoddy work. Insufficient testing. I think Pinboard is about to get some more of my business.

ETA: Bookmark import chugging on a shiny new Pinboard account.
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Oh my god I cannot see any of my links. It shows the first five under a tag and then no more.

*flails*
Yeah, I was yelling at the screen pretty much as soon as I saw the redirect. Even the colors are ugly. I eventually succeeded in saving the thing I was trying to save, but it was waaaaay too much work. It would frankly have been easier to make myself a post on DW/LJ.

Seriously, how on earth did they manage to break *tags*?!

Gotta go dig up the thing I backed my 2.4k bookmarks to back when they first announced that Delicious was being bought & see about getting that working instead. Or maybe I'll check out pinboard. (It is concievable they are the same thing -- must go look.)

It was Pinboard, and I recall I got a paid account, so yay! Auto-complete of tags, an uncluttered and un-stupid interface, and happy little bookmarklets all there. Not to mention it has been syncing and saving all the bookmarks I was collecting on delicious ever since. Pinboard here I come

Edited at 2011-09-27 07:09 pm (UTC)
Delicious broke the syncing feature today when they half-broke their API, so you'll want to make a clean switch over to Pinboard from now on.

It is still astonishing me. Quibbling about information design is one thing, as is quibbling about their intended site direction. I expected some qualms over that. I did NOT expect plain incompetence in their reimplementation, along with newbie errors like screwing up url encoding. That's just unacceptable.
Yeah, somehow that doesn't surprise me in the least. I've re-saved the link that caused me such grief, and don't expect to go back to Delicious at all now. I was happy to see that since I first backed stuff up on Pinboard, they have been paying attention to what is going on, and added the bookmarklets, so I've got those in my toolbar instead.

Really astonishing incompetence all around there.
yeah, i've been mirroring all my delicious links to pinboard for a while and i guess it's time to cut delicious out off the equation all together. delicious is a HOT MESS right now.
I am WTFing like mad. The pinboard guy (it is one guy) has been hilarious on Twitter, though. And he has already fixed a bug I reported to him this morning, which is pure win.
i know, i can't believe it's one dude and he is awesome, i love his twitter. he works in SF... maybe he'll give me a job, shoot.
Same here; I've had pinboard bookmark from delicious automatically and manually backing up to diigo occasionally. It's time to make the full switch.

I just wish:
*pinboard had tag bundles (and I'll have to start adding more people to my network)
*diigo wouldn't limit notes fields or limit to 5,000 tags (yup, I have more than 5,000 tags)
I think I also read something about diigo automatically making bookmarks with four-letter words in them private? That was a little surprising to me.

Tag bundling is the feature I'm missing most over on Pinboard, yeah. He knows people want it, though.
In another post, someone said of diigo: "All my links tagged "spanking" were made private without my knowledge. Made them public again, they were private within a few hours"

Yikes!

I haven't noticed any of my bookmarks force-changed to private, but then again I haven't been looking...diigo can tell me *how many* fics are marked as private, but right now neither delicious nor pinboard can. *facepalm*

It is interesting that "spanking" gets switched to private, but all my bookmarks tagged as "rating:nc-17" (and with NC-17 in the bookmark title) weren't made private.
It is such a ripe load of **** at the moment. I don't have an account, but use it to find stuff and the Eleven meme basically runs on the thing (to add even more fun to that, the Eleven meme mode has apparently been totally locked out of the account, so any new bookmarking will have to be done completely from scratch).
Yeah, I've been reading on Twitter about account problems. No consolation to hear that your mod isn't alone in being screwed over, though. Their Facebook wall is effing hilarious at the moment, if you're into black humor.
Ooh, I'm glad to see you posting on this. (And hey there!, btw.) I have a question I haven't seen come up today: I never had a delicious account, but I just recently started using it to quality-sort Very Large Fandom (Supernatural.) E.g. I would search tags for "Sam" and "petunias" and then go through the list looking only for those Sam-petunia links that had been bookmarked by more than 200 people. (Or maybe that number was something else, but it was definitely a wisdom-of-crowds sort of thing.)

This was awfully useful, but am I right in thinking that this ability has been completely destroyed? I never understood how Old Delicious worked so I really don't have a context for whether I'm simply not using New Delicious correctly for this or whether it's simply dead. Today I tried to replicate what I was doing and the useful number was never higher than 2.

Anyway, le sigh.
Hey there! *wave*

The ability to browse via tags as you used to has been completely destroyed, yes. Or not destroyed so much as "never implemented in the first place".

This new version of the site is a totally different code base. They took the data set, migrated it, and are running an entirely *different* service with it. I presume there is little or nothing of the original software running. (Partly this is because Delicious 2.0 used a bunch of Yahoo search technology that they would have no interest in allowing to leave the company. So possibly AVOS was forced to rewrite portions of it completely. I suspect there is no way for them to "roll back" to the older version of the site. They probably don't have the rights to.)

If a feature you used & liked is gone, it's because they haven't written it yet. If you want that feature, you're going to have to wait for them to implement it, if they decide they wish to. Right now they have more important basic functionality to debug. They went live without sufficient testing and holy moley, they needed more testing, 'cause their engineering staff is obviously fucking incompetent. (Pardon me. I'm still boggling over that URL escaping screwup.) It's that last point that moved me to migrate all my stuff to Pinboard. Features can be added, bugs can be fixed, but giant mistakes like that point to core problems.