dr who 11

In which I squee at Eleven and roll my eyes at Thirty-Four.

Am writing in fits and starts.
Remix is in progress, so are two different BG stories.
Nothing to report, really.

I am not in the mood at all for BG kink, but have instead been writing rather gentle stuff with the two of them. H/C is rule of the day. However, I have 10K words of Buffy/Oz/Xander kink that I have no idea what to do with. That story just keeps going, somehow.

Linkie! teamelevenftw over on Tumblr is just a non-stop cavalcade of cute. S05e06 was a ton of old-school Who fun. Eleven joins Seven and Two at the top of my favorite Doctors list.

I read Buffy Season 8 issue 34, and I have only this to say about that: I had always thought of myself as a Buffy/Angel shipper. I mean, if she has to commit necrophilia with a demon reanimating a human corpse, the series went there with Angel first. Doing it with Spike was just a retread. But after issue 34, I've changed my mind. If I have to ship Buffy with a vampire, it's Spike all the way. The idea of Buffy with Angel is just nauseating now.

I think Jeantty's art is to thank for that.

I also resent the comics for reigniting the nasty shipper wars that marred the BtVS fandom while the series was still in progress. Apparently people are still that invested in the canonicity or otherwise of their ships. So yay, shit writing + shit art add up to a fandom that's disappointed, disgusted, distressed, or disgracefully triumphant for the moment (but cruising for bitter disappointment, if Whedon stays true to form).

It's nice to be out in the purely fanfictional world of non-canonical ships. I have never been under any delusion that Official Series Writers(tm) will give me Giles/Buffy or Giles/Xander. This is freeing. I'm not waiting for abusive parents to throw me crumbs from the official table. I'm off cooking my own meals with fellow fans. Hooray for BG idfic!
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I also resent the comics for reigniting the nasty shipper wars that marred the BtVS fandom while the series was still in progress. Apparently people are still that invested in the canonicity or otherwise of their ships. So yay, shit writing + shit art add up to a fandom that's disappointed, disgusted, distressed, or disgracefully triumphant for the moment (but cruising for bitter disappointment, if Whedon stays true to form).

Thank you for putting it so succinctly. I have trying to say this over on my own LJ in one form or another and failing miserably.
The comics story is just not worth the pain and the fighting. It's an awful story that undercuts so much of the TV series it hurts my head. Messages of female empowerment from "Chosen"? Say goodbye to all those. Nice to know it was an anti-feminist story all along, Whedon!

Angel doesn't come off well.
Buffy's huge emotional history with Spike is just ignored.
Which is par for the course, because so is Xander's with Anya.
And Giles's behavior has been nonsensical all along. Which is because he's been treated as just a plot device with occasional expository dump duty.

Only in Espenson's arc were the characters at all recognizable. Which is all I ever wanted from the comics (more of my beloved characters), so as a BtVS fan, where's the payoff in reading for me? All I see is unhappiness on my flist, which is Spike-centric where it's not Giles-centric. (The Giles fans on my flist have long since stopped reading, mostly, see above.)

The comics are, in my opinion, a disastrous undertaking that have marred the accomplishments of the TV series and my evaluation of Whedon as a writer. (It's really hard for me to ignore the sexism in the concept of Inara from Firefly now that the sexism in the Twilight plotline is in my face, you know?) The upside is that eventually everybody will forget about the comics, and return to considering "Buffy" to mean just the TV show. Just as we ignore the official tie-in novels and the prior comics series already.
Thanks for saying this. It's actually made me feel a little better. The comic has really affected my love of the show, to the point where I've been actively looking (but so far failing to find) another fandom to jump to.

I'm sure you're right that the comics will be forgotten very soon after they cease coming out. People still discover Buffy through DVDs, and if they were to discover the show through the comics, I'm pretty sure they would soon realise how infinitely superior the show was.

And I can quite see why the Giles fans have stopped reading. Apart from the Faith arc, his character has really suffered. This latest arc in particular has trashed him - not as badly as it's trashed Angel, but almost.

As for the Spike fans, I suspect a lot of them carried on reading because they couldn't believe he had been erased from the story the way it appeared he had and were hanging on in ever fading hope. Seems we may have got our wish, but more than likely it'll turn out to be a case of be careful what you wish for.
All the wank has made me glad I stopped reading the comics a long time ago.

You know you have an audience with me for the Buffy/Oz/Xander kink.

Which reminds me, I need to work on my story for SoG. Buffy, Giles and Ethan, what fun!
Dude, you have no idea. The best thing about them are the Jo Chen covers, which you can enjoy for free on the Dark Horse web site.
Do I even want to know what happened in the comic? I never read them, I only hear about stuff from...well, mostly you, actually. A friend of mine just rewatched the series from season 5 because she just realized she never saw season 7. I've been trying to describe how fandom considers the comic a travesty, but failing miserably. We went for a trip to the library on Saturday and she picked up the first one to see for herself what it's like. I'm not sure you intended this, but you're review is making me curious enough to maybe look up the comics myself to see what's going on.
If you must check them out, do so in a way that doesn't give Dark Horse any money. It might accidentally encourage them to keep publishing this tripe.

Check 'em out from your local library.
It's nice to be out in the purely fanfictional world of non-canonical ships.

Yanno, I was just reading the latest comics wank and thinking I could start to see the appeal of shipping wholly non-canonical pairings. At least I'd be unlikely to get more disappointed over time. (Then again, getting half of one's ship canon-bashed the way Giles has been lately still might dampen one's shipping enthusiasm a bit...)

But after issue 34, I've changed my mind. If I have to ship Buffy with a vampire, it's Spike all the way.

Heh. You're not the only one. A die-hard Angel fan on my flist recently said she'd rather see Buffy/Spike than Buffy/Angel at this point - as she put it, at least she could enjoy rooting for his demise, and meanwhile he'd be snarky.

I, on the other hand, rather wish they'd left Spike out of it altogether. I'm waiting with sick anticipation to see how they deal with (or don't deal with, more likely) the Buffy/Spike reunion and all their shared history.
meanwhile he'd be snarky.

My feelings about Spike are complicated, but the end of them is that he's an interesting character. Fascinating, even. He's not boring, not even for a second. And he's snarky, as you say, which is always a win.

I'm completely ignoring whatever the hell the comics are doing with Giles. It's so obviously absurd and and purely in service of the plot of the moment, because it's so much in conflict with what happened in the TV series. Like he would have said Buffy's plan in "Chosen" was brilliant if he'd been worried all his life that she would be "the one". Like he'd have tolerated Buffy sleeping with Angel even for a second if ditto. It's just too stupid to affect how I feel about the character.